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For maintenance of international peace and safety,
the top representatives from each country were convening...
at the UN to discuss global peace-keeping and security.
Despite the lack of any official recognition,
the self-appointed G's from around the world...
are convening for the peace-keeping and security of global youths,
hence the Non-Summit Meeting.
We shall begin the session.
I'm the Chairman of Non Summit Meeting, Jun Hyun-moo.
- I'm Secretary General Yoo Se-yoon. - I'm Chairman Sung Si-kyung.
- Together we are Junyoosung. - We are Junyoosung.
(Welcome representatives.)
The day has finally come. Tomorrow is...
- the presidential election day of the US. - I hope it's over soon.
I'm having so much fun watching it.
What's it like in the US?
Both of them have been disappointing, with their problems..
and there have been so many controversial incidents.
Hillary Clinton is slightly ahead.
Hillary Clinton started leading at the moment when...
Donald Trump's video on the bus was revealed.
It was about Donald Trump talking lewdly about women.
- Yes, the recorded video. - It's not appropriate for television.
So Donald Trump's possibility of winning started to go down.
People feel these days...
he needs to run his own business after the election.
- So he is... - He's using the election to promote his business.
He's using the remaining election events...
- to publicize his business. - Yes.
So, when he holds a press conference or other events...
it's always at a golf course he owns,
or in front of the Trump Hotel.
I want to ask Mark something.
My Indian friends in the US...
are concerned that Trump might win.
Because there's a US that we know,
and there's a US that we don't know.
- Trump might win because of this unknown part. - What is that part?
The Mexican people are very nervous as well.
- I know. - They're building a wall.
The election results will have a big impact on Mexico.
- Economically. - We're the opposite. We're afraid of Clinton.
- Really? - China is afraid of Hillary Clinton.
She mentioned several problems, such as the South China Sea.
She brought up many things.
Pakistan is also on Donald Trump's side.
- He announced that he will solve the India-Pakistan issues. - What?
Really, he did.
I never heard that news.
(Trump offers to be mediator or arbitrator for India-Pakistan talks.)
Although we don't believe it, he announced it anyways...
so Pakistan has a positive view of him.
He might build a wall between India and Pakistan.
That's a good idea?
During other elections, I heard this often.
We sometimes make this kind of joke.
Instead of choosing someone we like,
we choose the person who we less hate.
I agree to this for the first time.
If the possibility of Hillary Clinton's victory goes up,
it doesn't mean that people actually like her.
It's because she's less hated.
Because she handled confidential data.
She used a personal server to send emails.
- What? - Clinton did that?
(Leaking confidential documents?)
- Are you talking about the US? - Yes.
- It's about the US. -
Did she know it was a matter of national security, or not?
Is there a country like that?
Did she know it was classified?
Does this make sense?
I did not email any...
classified material to anyone on my email.
There is no classified material.
She announced this in front of the nation.
But after investigation,
there was classified materials.
So people were furious because of her lies.
(An incident that rocked the US)
If it was another election, people believe...
that Hillary Clinton will not win.
But Trump made so many mistakes, also.
- So, I think Clinton will win. - Okay.
What is the most important qualification of a president?
- That's difficult. - It's a difficult question.
What we always say is...
a person who can be a role model for our children.
This year, Trump made so many inappropriate comments.
People are watching him on television with their children.
When Trump starts to speak,
they cover their eyes and ears.
- They are concerned about their children. - Yes.
Also, we always say...
cool under pressure.
The president will always experience emergencies...
and stressful situations.
We need a person who can make logical decisions.
Even in emergencies at 3 o'clock in the morning,
a president needs to be prepared.
The president needs to be logical, and solve problems.
- They need to be ready? - Yes.
I understand.
I think the president needs to be skilled in debating.
- Debating? - Yes.
Mexico believes debating skills are very important.
If a president is not good at debating,
it would be difficult to represent a country.
Debating skills are important.
A president needs to make the people proud.
But if they're bad at debates,
their national image will also be affected.
Not only debating, but they have to be a good listener.
They have to listen to other people...
and be able to persuade them.
- What about Aurélien? - In France...
they like presidents who make good speeches.
In French, it is called tribun.
It is a word originated from Roman history.
It is the ability to light a person's passion through speech.
Also, esprit de repartie is important.
Esprit de repartie means...
It's kind of like Tak Jae-hoon...
When someone speaks, it's the ability...
to reply in an intelligent but laughing attitude.
- With a laugh? - Yes.
Everyone in France...
actually has this ability.
- An intelligent way of speaking. - I see.
Kind of intelligent.
Tak Jae-hoon's style was French.
(A French way of speech)
In Germany instead of a president, we have a chancellor.
As the highest ranking person of the country,
it should be a person that can give hope to the people.
Also they should not commit any corruption.
The most important thing...
is a person who takes action instead of words.
Instead of making promises...
they have to take actual action.
Japan has a prime minister, also.
When we choose the prime minister,
we don't choose directly. We vote for the party.
If the pledges of the party...
are different from the Prime Minister's actions,
this is unacceptable. A prime minister is...
a person who represents us.
They should be able to communicate with the people.
Italy is also a parliamentary government.
The Prime Minister is the highest person.
We like people who have international recognition and power.
During the United Nations meetings,
we need someone who can speak up.
When you think of Berlusconi,
although he had domestic problems,
he was able to speak to Obama, Putin, and the president of China.
- He was able to talk to anyone. - I agree.
He went on vacation with Putin.
- Yes. - Really?
- Is that a good thing? - I don't know.
I think debating skills,
making speeches, and taking action...
are all important aspects of a president.
In Pakistan, we want someone...
who can manage religion and politics separately.
Division of religion and politics.
(Religion and politics should be divided.)
As a country's most powerful person,
there are always temptations of corruption.
Although this shouldn't happen,
in some cases, there have been impeachments.
Do we have any cases of impeachments?
Who was the worst leader?
In our neighbor country, Brazil...
there was a president named Dilma Rousseff.
She was the first Brazilian president.
People had so much expectations for her.
But she managed financial affairs poorly, and used all the money.
After using all of the country's budget,
she tried to take money from the National Bank.
But she was caught.
- From the National Bank. - Yes, she tried to take money...
from the National Bank, and was caught.
Eventually, she was impeached.
In the US, the biggest incident...
was the Nixon Watergate scandal.
Nixon was in the Republican Party,
and he sent secret agents into the Democratic headquarters...
in order to steal documents.
But what made the US citizens more angry...
was his lies. He announced in front of the nation...
"I'm not a crook." This is a very famous quote.
After the investigation started,
- it turned out he was a crook. - Yes.
When Bill Clinton had an affair,
he was almost impeached.
But the reason for his impeachment wasn't because of the affair.
It was because of his lies.
Is there a politician that doesn't lie?
I agree.
People call Sarkozy and Hollande, "Sarkollande".
Their names are combined, Sarkollande.
- They were the worst? - Yes.
There were so many incidents.
Who do you think is the worst between them?
(Sighing)
It's that bad?
- Sarkozy? - Sarkozy.
- Really? - Yes.
You always tell the truth.
(Laughing)
If the president or prime minister commit many wrong things,
- aren't they impeached in your country? - Yes.
In Pakistan,
there's only one time when a president completed his term.
- Really? - Were they all impeached?
Yes, they were all impeached.
- That's surprising. - In our country,
if there are problems such as corruption and protesting...
- the army takes over. - I see.
In Pakistan, the army is much more powerful...
than the government.
- That's why it has many problems. - Yes.
Japan is similar to Pakistan.
Long ago, the prime minister was changed every year.
- Why? Was it due to scandals? - Well,
due to scandals and low support.
Japan has had five prime ministers in six years.
- Really? - It has happened.
In 2011, when the earthquakes struck Japan,
former Prime Minister Naoto Kan was in office.
He revealed information about the radiation...
a bit too late.
As a result of that, there were delays in disaster response.
He ended up resigning from his position.
Leaders in most countries have political immunity.
However, they mostly resign when their support ratings fall. It's inevitable...
because they lose the support of the government.
- That's right. - They need to resign.
Shall we talk about some presidential scandals involving close associates?
Have there been any other presidential scandals...
connected to their confidants?
Normally, they would bear the surname "Choi".
"Confidant Choi."
- "Confidant Choi." - In American history,
there was a wife of a president,
who often sought the counsel of astrologers, which lead to a big scandal. - What?
That really happened?
It's not as well known in Korea.
Would an astrologer be a sort of shaman?
It was President Reagan's wife,
Nancy Reagan.
She had a friend who was an astrologer.
She always asked for her advice and counsel.
One day, someone tried to assassinate President Reagan.
He was shot at and injured as a result.
Luckily, he didn't die.
From then on, she started to call the astrologer...
to ask her things like whether it's safe for him to go on trips and whatnot.
- She asked her a lot of advice. - She didn't affect...
Raegan's political decisions, did she?
She only advised on when to be careful and things like that.
That's how it started, but...
if you read the interview material with other staff,
it says the astrologer was consulted...
- every time an important decision was made. - Really.
- I had no idea that happened in America. - America ruled by the will of the gods.
She should have asked for a talisman.
- She held it all together. - From the beginning,
the astrologer was invited to the White House and was treated as staff.
Many people in the White House began to complain...
about how this woman was...
being involved in important decisions of state.
It was a major controversy.
Later, Nancy Raegan stated...
that there were no victims and it was a very innocent practice.
How could she say that?
Is it well known in America?
It was a case that was revealed after Raegan's presidency.
- It didn't become a major issue at the time. - I see.
However, the astrologer stated...
that she herself was the most influential...
astrologer to aid the politics of a nation...
since the Roman times.
- Did she say it with pride? - Right.
It was the first time it happened in American history.
Is she living in Denmark?
Or in Germany? Never mind.
- Sorry about that. - Are you poking fun at the current political situation?
(The joke had good timing but failed.)
In Mexico, the wife of the president,
Angelical Rivera,
had bought a very big mansion.
She was seriously criticized for the it.
It was a property worth over six million dollars.
It wasn't purchased with her own money,
but the money she had received...
as a bribe for participating in a government project.
I probably shouldn't say this but 7 million dollars? That's not quite much.
- Right. - In our country, they take over hundreds of millions of dollars.
They're comparatively innocent.
- It's innocent. - It's still bad.
She seems like a frugal First Lady.
After this incident, the President's reputation was tainted.
Pakistan's current Prime Minister's daughter and two sons...
own four very expensive houses...
in London's Hyde Park. Not only this,
they even have a paper company suspected of laundering.
There have been many protests on this.
It's uncertain what will happen to him in the future.
It may become a very serious problem.
Nowadays, politicians need to manage their close ties...
in addition to being a good politician.
What do you think makes for a wise confidant?
I believe it should be someone who can set a good example for everyone.
Also, the confidant should not be behind closed doors.
If they are hidden, it feels like they are in control.
However, if their influence is openly revealed, it might be a little better.
If there is an aide that directly assists the president,
I don't think that qualifies as a true democracy.
That's why transparency is of the utmost importance.
The government should reveal all...
such information to the public.
In many countries, when the president first comes into office,
they change all the staff.
It leads to many presidents...
bringing in their close associates...
and placing them in high positions.
I don't think that is right.
In close relationships, the president won't be able to maintain an objective view.
Instead of having aides that are close,
the presidential staff should be hired based on credentials alone.
When former Prime Minister Abe was in office,
he picked close associates to join his staff.
However, it failed. Now, he mostly...
relies on the advice of professionals.
He's in the right direction.
We are a day away from the highly controversial US Presidential Elections.
Whoever is elected, we hope it's a president who prioritizes its citizens.
It's time for us to discuss various issues from different countries.
It's time to pick at various side issues from around the world...
in "What Is So Important".
("What is So Important?")
We'll start with our representative from China.
Recently, there have been problems regarding large marriage endowments.
Cars and apartment housing endowments are a standard.
The wealthy demanded things from...
stocks, jewels, houses, and even private jet planes.
- It's caused quite a controversy. - They even ask for planes?
What do you think about this controversy?
- Let's open the floor for discussion. - Is it a small plane?
That's incredible.
- Let's see here. - A plane?
I'm sure it's an exceptional case,
but marriage endowments are tricky because they cause...
resentment whatever is offered.
What's the tradition like in China? I imagine it would be intense. - First,
there's a saying in China that goes, "One mobile, one immobile."
It's one thing that moves and another that doesn't move.
The moving item is a car.
The other item is for example an apartment.
- Real estate. - Upon marriage, the groom has to buy an apartment,
while the bride has to buy a car or bring money.
Also, on the day of the wedding,
there has to be a great feast.
This leads to significant costs.
The tradition is slightly different for different regions,
but in Shanghai, it can cost up to 34,000 dollars...
for the wedding day alone.
There are many couples who forgo the wedding.
Let's talk about marriage endowment traditions from other countries.
- What's it like in Mexico? - In Mexico, there's a tradition where...
the man pays for everything.
Do women not pay even if they have the means?
- The man has to pay no matter what. - Really?
- It still exists. - The man is the deal or something?
For the wedding, the man has to pay for the dress, tiara, tuxedo,
- and even the honeymoon. - Really?
- What does the bride pay for? - The bride has to pay...
for all the rest that's required for a church wedding,
- like candles and things like that. - Candles?
Candles?
The candles must cost about 300 dollars.
It's not that much.
That's it? Candles?
(It's not as bad as that.)
(Chuckles)
The man has to buy the house...
and the woman has to pay for all the furnishings.
That's more fair.
Because of these traditions, couples often end up fighting.
The demands are different for every family.
There are many who break up as a result.
In India, the marriage tradition has lead to various social ills.
Wealthy families, in an effort to show off their wealth,
often throw lavish ceremonies...
purposely to show off their wealth.
These days, the problem of dowries have been rising...
that in Pakistan, there's a dowry related law.
It's illegal to spend over 50,000 rupees on wedding expenses.
It can lead to a sentence of up to six months.
Right after the marriage?
They'll spend their honeymoon in prison.
As younger generations are looking for more practical and reasonable practices,
there have been efforts to scale down the endowments.
Let's open the floor for discussion.
Do you think these time-old marriage practices...
are a tradition or a bad custom?
1, 2, 3. Press the button.
Thank you.
We have 5 for tradition and 6 for bad custom.
They're all unmarried.
That's true.
There are good and bad traditions. Aren't marriage endowments normally...
considered a bad tradition?
Not exactly.
Let's talk about why people think it's a bad custom.
It's believed that it could end up stopping the wedding.
People think that if the endowment isn't offered, they cannot marry.
In Japan, low birth rates have been quite serious.
Considering that, no one would want to get married.
It's not that marriage endowments are bad in itself.
The problem is demanding this much and that much from one's future spouse.
As long as it's not too extreme,
it's a tradition that will naturally continue.
Exchanging gifts is...
a part of tradition. However,
there's also the practice of very specifically...
demanding certain things.
- That's the bad custom. - That's the problem.
It's not something that can be thought of separately.
When I first came to Korea, I was really surprised...
to see that there was a very specific list of items.
It's quite a long list...
- of watches, suits, and... - That's why I asked Mark earlier.
Whatever the tradition call for, we should maintain the purity of the practice.
That's what we need to keep.
No matter what other's do, it's fine as long as I'm upright in my practice.
In my opinion, the tradition of marriage endowments arose...
- due to a lack of gender equality. - That's true.
Nowadays, women's rights are becoming more established...
and that culture is slowly evaporating.
In Germany, the tradition existed a long time ago but it's completely disappeared.
That's because women have gained more rights.
Women earn their own money...
and like Mark said, people in the US are sharing their expenses.
I heard that when you get married in China,
the man gives money to the woman.
That feels like the man is purchasing the woman.
- No. - I think...
that these days, women's status are equal to men.
This type of culture should disappear.
Marriage is not just about two people.
- It also involves both families. - Yes.
So depending on the marriage endowment,
you can see how you think of the other family.
(Everyone talks at once.)
Xinlin, listen.
If your parents do not approve...
of your wife, will you marry her?
I'll have to think about it.
Think about it?
What do you mean?
What if it was Kim Tae-hee?
Can you object to her?
- Will you marry? - I heard that a lot.
What if your parents did not like Kim Tae-hee?
Will you marry her?
I won't marry if my parents are opposed to it.
I have to receive their approval.
Will you guys marry if your parents oppose?
- It depends. - Yes.
- I think... - They will marry first, and then tell their parents.
That's not a bad idea.
That's important.
I think that western people meet so easily...
and break up easily also.
You western people!
Western people.
There's a difference. In Europe...
when you meet a woman...
- He's laughing. - Don’t laugh, Westerner!
The westerner is laughing.
(He realized his identity.)
- I'm a westerner! - I haven't heard that word for a while.
I'm sorry.
He has a big nose.
When you meet a women in Italy,
you become very close with her family.
That's right.
You give them presents and eat together.
Then, the women comes to my house and meets my family.
But there's no communication in Korea.
You just meet before the marriage.
There's no time to get attached.
- There's no time to share feelings. - You're almost strangers.
Also, they don't know anything about who they are marrying.
They only know how wealthy their family is, or their jobs.
- Marriage seems like a business. - Yes.
It's not about becoming a family.
Regardless of the family, if you love someone,
you can just live together, without getting married.
But if you get married, you live together in a house...
and start a life together.
You sound like a mother-in-law.
- I thought he was a mother-in-law. - Me, too.
I think the meaning is different...
depending on how you express it.
Marriage endowment may be a burden to someone.
But it's a culture for both sides.
I don't think getting rid of it because of its negative effects...
is a good idea, since it's like getting rid of a culture.
I think the details should change a little.
A long time ago, the women used to leave the house...
but now, men and women are treated as equal.
Tradition should be with harmonized with modern culture.
Harmonization?
I haven't heard that in a long time.
These days in Korea,
- men and women both have jobs. - Yes.
So, they shouldn't demand too much..
marriage endowment on each other.
From the moment they decide to get married,
they should start preparing together for their marriage.
- I don't think...
I don't think dividing it in half is right.
- It depends on their situation. - Yes.
- The wealthier person can pay more. - Right.
Now, let's talk about before getting married.
About dating expenses.
We have to talk about this.
- Yes. - I agree.
There are countries that go dutch.
And there are countries where men pay more.
I'd like to say something.
Many people in Korea...
have a misunderstanding about the US. They ask me,
"Mark, do you pay dutch in the US?"
Dutch is from Netherlands.
But when you're on a date,
normally it's courtesy for the man to pay.
- Really? - It's because the man...
- asks out the woman first. - Yes.
The man asks the woman for a date first.
- I see. - Because the man invites the woman.
When I was in New York, the woman never paid.
I always thought that it would be polite for me to pay.
Are you showing off again?
No, I'm not.
I'm tired of it.
It's all right.
In Germany, men usually pay on the first date.
Like the US, men mostly want to pay.
But German women...
are offended by this these days.
Why?
If a man pays without even asking her first,
they get furious.
- What? - They get furious.
I thought you were speaking German.
(Acting like a furious women)
So they get angry, and might not meet you anymore.
The economic status of women in Germany...
is growing these days.
If a man pays without asking,
they are offended.
Although you are wealthy enough to pay, I will pay today.
- That sounds more weird. - It's okay.
You have to ask her first.
You have to ask her...
before you pay.
Sometimes, women pretend to take out their purse.
Especially because the man should pay on the first date.
It's called the fake reach.
Both of them reach for their wallets,
- but the man pays since it's their first date. - In Canada?
You have to control your speed.
We do that in Korea a lot.
- People used to do this often. - I see that often.
In Korea, going dutch means paying half.
In Canada, it's different.
We give the waiter two cards.
If I ate more than the other person, I have to pay more.
So, I pay for what I ate.
- You only pay for what you eat. - Really?
If you eat with Guillaume and go dutch,
it's a big loss for you.
- It is. - Yes.
Going dutch is also common in Japan. It's similar to Canada.
You pay for what you eat. It's not divided in half.
- It seems so cold. - There's no affection.
We calculate everything...
- even down to 10 cents. - Yes.
That's okay if you're with friends.
But what if you are on a date, and everything's going well.
- How do you pay? - How?
Do you count your money?
We look at it together.
We look at the receipt together.
- So you count your money together? - Yes.
- It's natural. - I want to ask Oogi something.
Why do Japanese people date?
Because they love each other.
He's frustrated.
I mean...
if you're going to calculate everything,
why do you date?
- I mean... - Calm him down.
When you meet an Indian woman,
if you start calculating how much you need to pay..
you won't be able to fall in love with her.
You can only stay friends, really.
I agree. Do you pay half at a motel?
No, men pay for things like that.
- Why? - Why do men pay?
- Why? - Why?
I don't understand.
(Going dutch depends on the situation.)
- Hitoshi! - Hitoshi!
Hitoshi!
Every time we talk about going dutch, I'm so jealous.
In Mexico, men pay for everything.
There's also a study.
It says that 84 percent of men pay for everything on the date.
It doesn't matter if it's your lover or friend.
The men have to pay no matter what.
It sounds like you are promoting Mexican men.
They pay for dating and marriage.
No, that's why Mexican men are poor.
That's the truth.
- We have to pay for everything. - I'm sorry.
I didn't know that.
- We have no money. - I'm sorry.
- In China, - Yes.
men are forced to pay so much.
- I have a tragic story. - Yes.
Last year, I met a Chinese woman in Korea.
I had to pay every time we met.
I felt so much pressure.
So I asked her what she thought about going dutch.
She got angry and told me...
- The Chinese girlfriend? - Yes.
Yes, my ex-girlfriend.
She asked me why we were dating me if you don't want to pay.
So, I told her that it was difficult to pay everything.
She said that I should pay everything, since I'm Chinese.
In Korea these days,
dating expenses our becoming equal.
- Some couples make a bank account to pay together. - Yes.
- It's a trend. - Yes.
- Really? - Yes.
- That's a good idea. - How?
- They make a joint account. - They each pay 50 dollars a month.
They use that money...
for dating expenses.
That's a smart idea.
- He tried it! - Really?
- Yes, when I was in college. - How many?
- What? - How many did you make?
I'm not that kind of guy!
- What happens if you breakup? - It's difficult.
You can give her half the money.
Yes, but it's awkward bringing that up.
- Yes. - You have to close the account.
Then just give her everything.
I wasn't that generous.
I know someone who had a dating account...
and the account still exists.
- Really? - The account has been suspended.
It's difficult to take care of it after a breakup.
- You can't touch it. - Yes.
What do you think about this?
It sounds fun, just like a married couple.
A dating account is mostly opened by students.
You don't do it when you have jobs.
You have to pay a certain amount every month.
It's like paying your phone bill. What if you don't make money?
- You might be short on money. - Yes.
Then they might ask why you didn't put money in the account.
It could lead to a fight.
Personally, it feels like...
entering into a social dating club.
- A dating club? - Yes.
Because you have to follow the conditions.
When you meet someone you love,
it's natural to spend money together.
- But... - I have something to say.
Couples can tell each other if they're short on money.
Then why do you make it in the first place?
It's unnecessary.
Because it's comfortable.
After you eat, you can just pay with the card.
What about this?
I'll pay today, and you pay tomorrow.
- That's better. - No.
It depends.
In China, the man has to pay for everything,
but the woman sometimes gives money back.
The woman can just send me money monthly.
- No. - That's not good.
He's really negative about dating accounts.
I think this is an efficient method in Korea.
Korean bank accounts have a maximum purchase limit.
That's right.
- It's like that in Korea. - It helps to curb spending.
I wanted to ask this.
Say, you created a dating account. What if you go on so many dates that...
you spend it all in two weeks. Do you not date for the rest of the month?
You should just not make one.
The dating account is not for you.
You shouldn't spend too much of it.
I won't ever make one.
Let's just say Nicklas won't be making a dating account.
There's something I don't understand either.
Couples can just talk about it...
- openly and comfortably. - I agree.
- That's the best. - All because of worthless self-pride,
there are times when you can't talk about it.
Especially when we were young,
we'd starve and ask our friends and mothers for money to go on dates.
If you don't have any money, you have to make it clear from the start with a smile.
"Hey! I don't have any money."
(Brutal honesty)
"I have no money."
"Honey, don't expect anything today."
"We're going to be walking for six hours today."
There's not even any money for gas.
We've been talking about the costs of marriage to dating.
The best thing would be to honestly let the other know your situation.
It would be most natural for the one who has money to pay.
It's quite a struggle.
We'll be back next week with another segment of "What Is So Important?"
It's time to meet our Non-summit Representative.
If Won-bin changed the image of the "old man",
our guest created a positive image out of the "college senior".
It's actor Park Hae-Jin.
(The 123rd Korean Representative)
Welcome.
(Actor Park Hae-Jin, aged 34)
There is a difference in the opening applause for male guests.
I saw last week's episode. It wasn't like this when Song Ji-hyo entered the stage.
Have a seat.
Nice to be here.
Please introduce yourself.
I am Park Hae-Jin, here to represent Korea.
I am an actor.
Nice to meet you.
He's quite handsome.
(Nice to meet you.)
You are quite popular in China.
Through which work did you gain so much popularity in China?
It must have been from my first debut piece, "Famous Chil Princesses"...
to the biggest hit, "My Love from the Star".
Today, on my way into the studio...
- there were so many fans. - It had been so long...
- since we had cameras out front. - There were so many.
It's something we hadn't seen in so long.
I waved my hand as I walked by and they just told me to scoot.
They wanted you to hurry inside.
There were even fans that came from China.
They told me in Korean, "Take care of oppa Hae-Jin."
- They called him, "oppa Hae-Jin"? - Yes.
Even my mother calls him "oppa Hae-Jin".
(They call him their oppa.)
(Even Xinlin's mother calls him "oppa".)
Do you use the word "oppa" in China as well?
The word "oppa" is the only Korean word that's well known in China.
Many people are looking forward to your next drama.
After "Yoo-Jung Sunbae"...
I'm preparing to be in a JTBC Network's drama called "Man to Man".
I'll be appearing in the drama as an intelligence agent.
- All right. - This is our 123rd Non-summit Meeting.
Let's take a look at Park Hae-jin's topic.
"Ever since I was a kid, I always loved sneakers. I've been collecting..."
"sneakers until the present day."
"That's why I've brought this topic."
"I have collected up to 1,800 pairs of shoes."
"Am I abnormal?"
Let's conclude right now that it is and end the show.
To think he's collected 1,800 pairs is...
That's incredible.
- That's insane. - How many dressers would you need to store them?
- They won't fit inside a dresser. - You'd fit them in a room.
I keep them in my room, the closet, the living room, and even in the hallway.
It's even in the living room?
Are you renting out a shoe house?
- The smell of feet must be insane. - They're all new shoes.
- Really? - They're all new and boxed.
People who collect shoes don't usually wear them.
Do you have ones you've never worn?
I haven't worn any of the shoes here.
You just keep 1,800 pairs of shoes?
- Are they shoes that you wear separately? - Yes, I have a separate pair.
I told you, he's abnormal.
How could that be normal?
Dok2 would always...
wear really expensive shoes, so I asked,
"Is it okay for you to wear those shoes?"
"I have two more pairs at home."
There's one for storage and another one for wearing.
Can you explain what you love about collecting shoes?
Do you like looking at them?
When I first started, it was more for a sense of comfort.
When I was really young, my family was so poor...
that I couldn't afford to buy shoes.
I remember our class leader was wearing these Nike basketball shoes.
- Nike Jordans? - Not even. He was wearing regular basketball shoes.
To be exact, they were Nike Pippens.
At the time, I would wear...
World Cup sneakers with a "W" logo.
I wore those shoes because I couldn't afford the Nike shoes.
I always wanted to own a pair.
After I debuted, I was able to afford them.
That's when I started to collect them and it's reached this point.
Is there a brand you prefer?
About 80 to 90 percent of my shoes are Nike shoes.
How about Addadas?
Among the others, there are Addadas shoes,
N Balance shoes,
- Do you have Pima shoes? - Yes.
I think I only have about 3 to 4 pairs of those.
Why do you only call Nike by its proper name?
(Come to think of it, he's right.)
- We'll call it Nika. - In any case,
I have many Nice sneakers.
- Nice. - Most of my shoes are Nice shoes.
I collect all the different lines.
Do you look at your shoes everyday? Do you take them out and smell them...
- like this? - No, I don't do that.
Do you only store them?
Do you feel a sense of satisfaction from collecting them?
- That's right. - You don't even show case them...
- or open the boxes? - It's all storage.
- I do open the box. - Do you close it immediately to prevent discoloration?
The shoes are already packed with damp-proofing material,
or silica, in a zip-lock bag.
Maybe it's the satisfaction that comes from purchasing the shoes?
Have you received any calls from museums asking to exhibit your shoes?
It's like an art.
That is possible.
Are you talking about the Nice Museum?
It wasn't exactly an exhibition,
but in the 28th anniversary of Nike Air shoes,
there was an anniversary event.
My Nike Airs were exhibited during that event.
That's incredible.
(He was recognized as one of the seven Nike enthusiasts around the world.)
(Park Hae-Jin was selected as the Korean representative.)
How many pairs do you wear?
It's probably in the hundreds.
I think this is the first topic to receive this much attention.
We haven't been Able to move on to the next topic.
Runners are a popular topic...
- among men. - That's true.
Let's cast our votes.
I think we've been talking about sneakers for over two hours.
Our topic is "I have collected up to 1,800 sneakers."
"Am I abnormal?" The discussion begins now.
Let's listen to the opinions of our representatives.
Press the button if you think this is abnormal.
1, 2, 3. Please press to vote.
(7 votes for normal, 5 votes for abnormal)
Even Park Hae-Jin voted for himself.
These people are the real abnormal ones.
I completely understand. Be it shoes or whatever else,
it's a way of self-satisfaction.
That's fine.
It may be a burden economically, but it's okay...
because you're doing it for your happiness.
It's worth it.
Being "abnormal" isn't a bad thing.
However, there still needs to be a reason for it.
Aurélien mentioned this earlier,
but you can just think about it as a kind of art.
- Really? - It wasn't like this in the past,
but nowadays, sneakers have become a kind of art.
Think about buying 1,800 pieces of art.
That's normal.
You can only buy it if you can afford it.
If this isn't abnormal,
what is?
(What on earth is abnormal then?)
Aurélien is the abnormal one.
"If this isn't abnormal, what on earth is?"
It's not a diss,
but it needs to be recognized.
In terms of its artistic value, I've also been collecting art these days.
White porcelain.
I've been collecting porcelain vases and other traditional Korean art.
What if you had 1,800 pieces of porcelain...
and you couldn't move?
I think it's normal because the pieces have value.
I think sneakers are completely expendable goods.
After I buy a pair of sneakers, I wear them until I get holes in them.
That's why I think having 1,800 pairs of sneakers...
- is a waste of money. - Wait.
He said he used to be poor when he was a child.
At the time, other children were wearing these shoes their parents bought them.
He was the only one who couldn't wear them.
That is a very uncomfortable feeling. Later,
when circumstances get better, he's free to buy as much as he wants.
What's the big deal?
Just because he couldn't afford a pair as a child,
buying 1,800 pairs becomes normal?
In fact, most people...
aren't able to buy everything they want...
or do whatever they want.
Therefore, I think a bit of self-control is necessary.
- He's right. - If a hobby becomes too extreme,
it can become an addiction.
- Don't let it get to that. - Well, the thing about hobbies...
is that they need to have an addicting quality.
You play games, right?
- Yes. - How long have you been playing?
I've been playing for about 20 years.
You've been playing for 20 years. He's been collecting for over 10 years...
and it's what he's amassed so far. He didn't buy them on impulse.
That would be abnormal.
If you put together all the years you've spent playing games,
- that would make you a game addict. - There's truth to that.
I am addicted. I'm abnormal.
He knows he's an addict.
I slept at 7am today.
Don't beat yourself up.
I think my hobby shouldn't be a burden onto others.
It hasn't caused anyone harm, has it?
- No one's harmed by it. - In that case,
it's perfectly all right.
- My family would be the ones harmed by it. - Do you live with your family?
I live with my mother, sister, brother-in-law, and two nephews.
- My goodness. - It is harming others.
It'll totally be a burden.
- We need to do a re-vote. - Wait, wait.
Oogi, do you have any hobbies?
- I have many. - Stargazing?
Yes.
I don't really collect things, though.
I don't like having the image of a nerdy collector.
I'm not only talking about shoes.
I'm also interested in the history of the brand.
Among my favorite Nike shoes,
there's a model called HTM.
It's a limited edition and it is named after the CEO of Nike,
Mark Parker, Tinker Hatfield, and Fujiwara Hiroshi.
The edition was named after the first letters of their names.
He sounds like a real professional.
That's why I really want to go to Oregon.
Is that where the headquarters is?
Yes, the Nike headquarters is there.
It's the one hope of all nerd collectors.
It's the hope of nerds?
Yes. The word "nerd" often has negative connotations.
- However, if it's this avid, it's a good thing. - Right.
It's not a hardcore fan, it's a 1800 fan.
What?
Please don't make lame jokes.
- Was that lame? - Yes.
I thought I heard wrong.
- 1800 hardcore fan? - Nick is laughing.
He is laughing.
If your girlfriend and your shoes fall in the water...
- will you save your shoes first? - Don't ask those questions.
What if it was a really rare Jordan series?
What if your favorite shoe fell in the water?
My favorite shoe is...
the Air Series. Especially the first edition shoes.
- I see. - I actually own shoes that are 30 years old.
They came out in 1983.
- Wow. - Those shoes...
have gone through hydrolysis.
Hydrolysis means...
the sole has deteriorated and separated from the shoe.
Even new shoes deteriorate if you don't wear them.
I have several new shoes in that condition.
- Those shoes... - That shoe and your girlfriend fell in the water!
You can find those shoes in the Japan auction website.
(He already checked in case of emergencies.)
I have to save my girlfriend.
- Right. - You thought about this.
Are you intending to marry your shoes?
(Mr. Hae-Jin and Mrs. Shoe)
Today we'll be talking about hobbies and investment.
- There are so many hobbies. - Yes.
What popular hobbies are there in each country?
In China, personal internet broadcasting is popular.
- Same as Korea! - There are so many sites.
And many people use it to earn money.
A daughter of an entertainer...
earns about 100,000 dollars for one show.
- What? - 100,000 dollars for a show.
There are also side effects. Someone broadcast live...
a scene of him stealing some cigarettes.
That person was caught.
- Live theft. - Yes.
- Wow. - He created the evidence.
- Yes. - He was filming his own crime.
I am stealing right now!
There was also this couple...
who broadcast live a show called "Making People".
It was an adult show showing them having intercourse.
- The title isn't wrong. - That's right.
- The title is nice. - Yes.
- It's kind of educational. - Yes.
There's something extremely popular in Mexico right now.
- It's called K-Pop cover dancing. - Wow.
K-Pop started getting famous internationally...
since Gangnam Style.
So many people started doing cover dancing.
The most famous group is EXO.
- Really? - Their dance is hard.
(Dressed just like EXO)
(Accurate dancing)
(K-Pop has become really popular in Mexico)
There's a Korean cultural center in Mexico.
Every year, they open a contest.
My friend participated in this contest.
He won the contest, and came to perform with Korean idol singers.
- Wow. - Wow.
- Japan has so many hobbies, right? - Yes.
Japan has so many magazines related with hobbies.
- Hobby magazines? - Yes.
There are so many.
You can't even count them.
(Vegetable, princess magazine)
(Stationery, monster magazines)
Recently, railway magazines have become popular.
There's a word called "Railroad Mania".
They take pictures on the subway,
and eat lunchboxes at each subway station.
- They're railway enthusiasts. - Yes.
There is another common hobby.
There's a magazine called Part Work.
In a bonus book, they give you certain parts of a plastic model...
and each week you can gather these parts to create a model.
Japanese magazines have great bonus books inside them.
Not only that magazine,
but they also give bags and watches in the bonus book.
- Inside the magazine? - Yes.
It's a hobby to enjoy the little things in life.
The US has been influenced by Japan also,
and there's a new hobby called Cospre.
It's originally a Japanese word.
It's a combination of the words costume and play.
- Cospre. - When I was in New York,
I was in the subway headed to work.
Suddenly, Superman and Wonder woman got on the subway.
So I checked the calender,
and it wasn't Halloween. It turns out...
- that it was day called Comic-Con. - Yes.
Comic-Con friends.
(Comic-Con is a US animation and movies exhibition. It includes costume play, and opening of new movies and games.)
In Japan, there's a negative view about costume play.
- Because of the obsessive image? - That's right.
Costume play is similar very similar.
A very popular hobby in Germany these days...
is called Diorama.
It's like creating a set by using miniatures.
They make film sets and backgrounds.
I tried diorama also.
When did you do it?
I used to make Gun dams...
and also did painting work after I made them.
It was like recreating a scene in the animation.
(Diorama has extended to animation)
- That's also diorama? - Yes.
Diorama has many themes.
That's amazing.
Switzerland is a country with great scenery and mountains.
Recently, a hobby called Wing Suit Base Jumping...
- is really popular. - Wow.
You wear a suit that looks like a flying squirrel.
And you jump from a high mountain.
(Jumping)
(Jump)
(Like a bird in the sky)
(Wing Suit Base Jumping is full of thrill.)
(The courageous adventurers who dream of flying)
- Does it have a parachute? - What?
- Is there a parachute in the end? - Yes, there is.
If you don't use your parachute, it will be your last jump.
You use the parachute at the end.
There have been many accidents.
And after it's popularity,
people have started to look for more dangerous spots to jump.
Many people die from accidents.
But still, more people are starting to enjoy it.
It's popular in Italy, also.
But the problem is, during June and July...
23 people died.
The problem is...
you have to be an experienced jumper.
But people these days jump...
- to gain more followers on their social media. - Yes.
And sponsors also pay a lot of money.
There's a lot of competition.
But one mistake might lead to your death.
- They go to more dangerous places.
Besides base jumping, another popular hobby is...
- Nordic Walking. - Yes.
How it started was...
ski players don't have anything to do in the summer.
So they started walking in the mountains...
while holding their poles.
We can see many mothers doing this in the mountains.
It's power walking.
Yes, but it takes much more power than power walking.
I heard something funny.
It's a story about my brother.
The place where I used to live was very cold.
He went to a used shoe store to buy some shoes.
The salesman told him...
that this was a really nice shoe.
It turns out it was a ski shoe.
My brother didn't know.
My brother wore those heavy shoes his whole life.
I thought it was a funny story.
It is sad.
Maybe he'll fly when he takes his shoes off.
In Pakistan,
there are a lot of wealthy people in the Southern area.
People enjoy car racing with fancy cars.
I'm from the North, and we enjoyed raising pigeons.
That's so different from the South.
(That is sad story No. 2)
We used to raise pigeons in front of our apartments.
The raising pigeons have a surprise, like making people?
(Laughing)
There are many pigeons in Pakistan,
in various shapes and colors.
- It's really pigeons. - Yes.
- A luxury pigeon. - Yes.
There's a sport related with pigeons.
Friends get together and release their pigeons.
If my pigeon brings all the other pigeons to my house,
all the pigeons become mine.
(Bringing all the pigeons!)
There's a lot of food in Zahid's house!
Let me explain some more.
India also has a sport using pigeons.
- It's called Kabootar bazi. - Yes.
You go on a rooftop and shout.
The pigeons recognize your voice and land on a rooftop.
The owner of the rooftop becomes the owner of the pigeons.
It's a really traditional sport.
- Can you train the pigeons? - Yes.
Did Zahid train any pigeons?
When I was playing the game, I would go to my house...
- and whistle. - How?
(Whistling)
- Then the pigeons will come? - Yes.
If you whistle like that, I think a snake will come too.
With that type of sound...
I think my mother will go, too.
Did you call me?
What type of hobbies are the G's enjoying?
Since I started living in a traditional house,
I started receiving lyre lessons.
- Lyre? - Yes.
The Korean harp of Wang San-ak?
You'll start traditional singing soon.
Do you want to be a human cultural asset?
Last week...
What is it?
What is a lyre?
(Making harp noises)
I know what that is!
About two weeks ago,
I went on a moonlight tour...
- in a Korean palace. - Yes!
I heard Korean traditional music for the first time.
I was so fascinated.
So I wanted to learn how to play.
While the gayageum is a bit feminine,
the lyre makes a more masculine sound.
So I started my lessons last week.
- Is it fun? - I'm learning the haegeum.
- Really? - Yes.
It's not easy.
- Do you want to play together? - Sure.
I can play the gayageum.
- Really? - Really?
- Yes. - I saw him play.
(Playing the Arirang with sorrowful eyes)
- We can make a Korean traditional band. - Yes.
I'll play the tambourine.
- I'll spin my head. - Let's play on Christmas.
Hae-Jin, when you're not doing a show...
do you have any other hobbies besides collecting shoes and Gun dams?
These days, as Mark mentioned earlier...
I got interested in interior work, while repairing my house.
That's better.
(That's a better hobby)
You sound like a parent.
I saw Mark's house.
It was a house that I had imagined.
I really want to live in a traditional house.
- Mark's house has a modern touch to it. - Yes.
- It was a house that I always wanted. - Yes.
Are you interested in buying it?
I wanted to ask him if it was for purchase.
Hae-Jin living in Mark's house!
- The house price will soar! - It's an honor.
Let's talk about when a hobby turns into a profession.
In Japan, there's a comedian named Neko Hiroshi.
He started a marathon as a television special.
But he received a good score, and decided to go to Cambodia.
- He changed his nationality. - Yes.
He went to Cambodia, and ran in the Rio Olympics...
- as a member of the national team. - A Cambodian member?
Yes. But he finished in...
139th place out of 140 players.
His score wasn't good,
but he is considered a successful man.
There's a famous actor in Mexico and Central and South America.
His name is Pablo Azar.
He said being an actor is not a stable job.
So he began the taxi service, Uber.
- The taxi? - It was extremely successful.
This handsome man was driving a taxi, and people loved it.
It was so successful.
So he decided to change his job...
from an actor to taxi driving.
- Wow. - That's right.
Imagine calling a Uber taxi...
and Hae-Jin showed up as the driver.
That will be amazing!
(Where do you want to go?)
- Wow. - The taxi might be full of shoes!
That's a good idea.
A woman named Michelle Phan made a lot of money through her hobby.
She's a Vietnamese American.
She moved from Vietnam to the US with her mother.
Many people from Vietnam...
work in nail shops in the US.
She worked in a really bad environment.
She she started...
to take interest in makeup.
Her makeup tutorials were ranked top 10 on Youtube.
She also created her own makeup brand.
What's really touching is...
she called her mother one day.
She told her to stop working,
since her mother had sacrificed so much for her.
She told her to quit.
She is a successful woman who has turned her hobby into a job.
Did her mother quit while she was doing nails?
What if she quit in the middle?
(Please finish my nails, please!)
The wealthiest man in China, Ma Yun of Alibaba...
- used to work as an English instructor. - Yes.
He used the internet for the first time in 1995.
He loved it so much, and was determined...
to start his own business, and he was so successful.
His life motto is,
"Make a hobby and don't give up."
The other person is me.
- I think I succeeded because of my hobby. - Why?
I started to learn Korean...
because I liked Korean dramas so much.
I studied Korean on my own, and achieved level 6 of TOPIK.
- Wow. - Also,
I didn't have money to go to an academy,
so I watched the drama "The Heirs" seven times.
- Lee Min-ho? - The drama with Lee Min-ho.
Do you remember any of his lines?
Am I crazy if I still want to hold you?
I remember that line.
(Wang Min-ho shakes the hearts of women)
- My heart raced a little. - Don't do that!
Also, I really liked watching the Non Summit Meeting.
I requested to be on the show,
and now I'm sitting here.
- Wow! - That's right.
You're even better than Ma Yun.
- Really. - Thank you.
In Pakistan,
taking pictures with a DSLR camera is popular these days.
There's a man who has been very successful due to this hobby.
- It's called Chaiwalla. - Yes.
He sells tea on the streets.
He posted a picture of himself making tea.
2 million people looked at his picture in two days.
People call him...
hot tea.
It means that besides the tea,
- his face is very hot. - Yes.
Now, he's working as a model for a luxury brand.
- Wow. - Hot tea!
- We don't need to look far. - Yes.
Hae-Jin also worked as a designer in China?
I'm not a designer, but...
I participated in some design work.
I participated as a jewelry designer in Japan.
And also a clothing designer in China.
- He must be talented in that field. - Yes.
Do you have a sense for it?
I majored in design.
- I see. - Yes.
He designs, sells, and buys shoes.
That's right.
Having a hobby as a profession might sound good.
But if it becomes your job, it might be stressful.
We will have a vote on what you think about this.
Is it fortunate or unfortunate to have a hobby as your job?
Those who think it's fortunate, raise your hands.
(9 people vote for fortunate, 3 people vote for unfortunate)
- It's something you like. - Yes.
I don't think you'll dislike it, even if it becomes your job.
Guillaume is one of those people, isn't he?
Yes, I have experienced this.
Compared to a job that's not related with your hobby,
it might be better to have it as a profession.
But it feels different playing games as a hobby...
- and playing games as a profession. - I agree.
It might be different.
But compared to another job,
- you can enjoy your work. - When it was my hobby, I enjoyed it.
I loved it. But as a job, I had to practice all the time...
and it felt like work.
This is what a hobby is.
Doing what you want to do, when you want to do it.
But if you think of it as a job,
you have to work unwillingly, even when you don't want to.
That's why I think it's unfortunate.
- Zahid! - Think about it.
If you work at a company, you can't enjoy it.
- And you also have to work unwillingly. - Right.
- But if your hobby becomes your job... - Everyday!
You have to do the same thing, everyday.
- Did you see his face? - He looked frustrated.
When I'm doing a hobby...
it's because I like doing it.
- But... - Even if I do it everyday, it's something I like.
Wait a minute.
So in my opinion,
the place where we spend the most time in our lives...
- is at our jobs. - Right.
It's the bed, for me!
It's because you work at home!
30 percent in bed, and 30 percent working!
If I could make my hobby a job,
I think it would be very fortunate.
Because if you try to enjoy your hobby after work,
there's not enough time, and you won't be happy.
Have you experienced it?
Right, do you have experience?
- Have you tried it? - Yes, I have.
My hobby was being a model,
and I earned money for 2 years and enjoyed it.
I like it, and want to keep doing it!
Of course, there must be other worries.
Why are you talking down to him?
I'm sorry.
Apologize to Guillaume.
- That's all right. - It's okay, you're all foreigners.
(They are all foreigners.)
There's an English saying.
If you can make your hobby as your job, you will never have to work again.
If you translate in Korean,
it means you don't have to work anymore...
if your hobby becomes your job.
A hobby is...
doing something you like and being happy.
If you keep doing something happy,
people around you will also receive that energy.
It will bring out the best results.
I have this type of experience.
In college, I really liked robots.
So in graduate school,
I started research on robots.
I'm researching the same thing, everyday.
And if I didn't have any research results,
my seniors will ask me what I'll bring to the meeting with my professor.
I repeated the same work every single day,
and every time I saw a robot, I wanted to break it.
- He's mad. - He's angry right now.
You have to compare it like this.
If you're doing something you don't like,
- the work is similarly difficult, - But...
wait a minute!
There's no meaning to your work.
I know it's hard. There's no job that isn't hard.
Although it's hard, it has meaning.
He was working with the robots he liked.
I was disappointed. I used to like robots so much,
but now I really hate it.
You start to fall apart from it.
Hae-Jin, what do you think?
A hobby becoming your job can become stressful.
Also, your hobby can become a burden.
But if you work at the same time, it would be stressful as well.
If you're going to receive stress,
- I think doing something you like would be better. - Right.
I agree.
What if collecting shoes was your job?
I would be happy.
I would like to make a proposal.
There's no word for people who have hobbies as a job.
I've thought of a word called "Hobjob."
- Hobjob? - Yes.
It's a combination of hobby and job.
- Hobjob? - That's all right.
Right now, I'm doing a hobjob.
Jobby!
- Jobby. - Wow!
Jobby sounds good.
Jobby sounds great.
It sounds better than hobjob.
Let's call it jobby.
- Jobby. - I like Jobby.
I stay up all night doing my jobby.
Jobby!
(Next time...)
There are people who invest as a hobby.
And some people earn profits while doing this.
- What investment hobbies are there? -
Mexico has tequila investing.
It's investing with tequila.
- Tequila investing. - People don't know it well.
Like wine, tequila gets more expensive with time.
There was a bottle of tequila that had been kept for seven years.
It was 1,3 liter, and the bottle was decorated with diamonds.
It was sold for 250,000 dollars.
In Germany,
- people invest in cars. - In cars?
After you buy a car, its value depreciates, right?
But if maintained for more than 25 years, it becomes an old-timer.
- Like a classic car? - That's right.
So people don't sell their old cars.
People who own classic cars take good care of their cars.
The value of the car increases as time passes.
Because people can't buy these cars anywhere else.
People in Italy invest in cars too, but it's a little different.
People buy really old cars.
They buy a car in bad condition.
- It's really hard to get parts for old cars. - Right.
So they take the car to a craftsman...
and repair it perfectly. Also, classic cars are...
really popular in China and the Middle East at the moment.
Classic cars are rare in these regions.
If they can find a buyer there,
they can sell it for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
In Japan, some people make money from claw machines.
People normally go to game centers to get dolls, right?
Some of the "One Piece" action figures are only available...
at certain game centers.
- I'm sure a lot of people will try to get it. - Some get the action figures...
and sell them to the fans.
- Are you talking about the claw machine? - Yes.
If you're lucky, you can get it with a dollar.
Then you can sell it for a few hundred dollars.
In India, a lot of people invest in art pieces these days.
So art directors are making a lot of money from it.
There's a close friend of mine. His name is Subodh Gupta.
He's a renowned artist.
Ten years ago, he said he'll sell one of his pieces to me...
for 2,000 dollars. Back then,
I said I will think about it.
- While I was thinking, he's been holding exhibitions at famous galleries. - Really?
- Now, his art piece is sold for 2 million dollars. - Really?
My goodness.
- I should've bought it right away. - Your name is Lucky.
That basically means that you lost 1,998 million dollars.
- If you bought it, you wouldn't be here. - It's quite painful.
Actually, something good has happened to one of my friends.
My friend works...
as the director of a library in Saint-Omer.
He accidentally found the "First Folio" by Shakespeare,
- which was released 400 years ago. - Really?
Only 232 copies were found globally.
But the book my friend found was acknowledged as the 233rd copy.
- The book is now worth around 6,9 million dollars. - 6,9?
That's right.
However, the book belongs to the library.
- He can't sell it. - Wasn't your friend rewarded at all?
His effort was acknowledged.
Really? I'm sure that made him really happy.
He was very happy.
He was?
(Happiness of 6,9 million dollars)
That's what we call happiness.
It's the true happiness. His effort was acknowledged.
(Hello, Korea! I'm Rémy Cordonnier.)
(I'm still fascinated and proud that the discovery of the book...)
(was acknowledged globally and caught many people's attention.)
(Thank you. Have a good day.)
I'm sure Hae-Jin will like this story.
There's someone like you in the States. He makes money from collecting shoes.
He is 16 years old.
- His name is Benjamin, right? - Yes, his nickname is Kickz.
- Do you know him? - I know who he is.
One day, he bought a rare pair of shoes...
for 400 dollars.
Later, he resold it for 4,000 dollars.
- I see. - Then he realized...
that he could make money from it.
Now he runs his own online store.
Its annual revenue is about a million dollars.
- So you know who he is. - Yes.
The pair of shoes he sold...
for 4,000 dollars is called LeBron MVP.
(Goodness)
He's a shoe expert.
- He is. - I like those shoes.
I think the networks he had played an important role.
He knew a lot of famous singers, such as Drake. He took photos with them.
- That helped him a lot. - Networks are important to sell things.
Let's talk about investments that only you're making.
To make money,
you have to buy an item at a low price...
- before other people acknowledge its real value. - Yes.
As you all know, I'm collecting china.
These days, people know the true value...
of Joseon white porcelain.
So the price has skyrocketed.
I found this out while studying about china.
Chinas from Silla dynasty are much cheaper.
I was really shocked because...
the chinas are believed to be more than 1,500 years old.
But not many people realize...
its true beauty and value yet.
So I'm trying to collect those.
I'm expecting the value of the china will increase in the future.
It was made during the Silla dynasty.
It could say "Made in China" on the bottom.
(The china from Silla dynasty that Mark purchased)
- I see. - Many people buy second-hand goods using internet and their mobile device.
People even call it "Second-hand Investment" these days.
Have you ever purchased second-hand goods?
- Oh. - I have.
A while ago, I moved to a new house.
I needed a washing machine.
So I went to a second-hand shop. The owner there was an old man.
There was this pretty, red washing machine.
I asked him to sell it to me.
He said, "I was going to sell it to someone else."
"But since you're here, I will sell it to you."
So I bought it for around 200 dollars.
- That's pretty cheap. - Yes.
- What's the capacity? - How many liters?
What?
How many liters?
- It's over 10 liters. - It's a good deal.
He bought it at a cheap price.
He did.
I was scammed while trying to purchase a second-hand product.
When I first came to Korea,
I saw this ad, saying he's selling a 40-inch TV for 300 dollars.
So we talked on a messenger application.
He said he lives in Busan and asked if he could use a package service.
I was in hurry, so I said it's okay.
So I even prepaid for the TV, but I didn't receive my TV.
- You paid the full price? - That's right.
I trusted him because...
the profile photo on his Kakaotalk was a photo of a baby.
So I just trusted him.
- You thought he was a father. - I later found out that's how people scam.
They use a baby's photo.
Right. Also, I checked the deposit receipt,
and the payee's name was Kim Jong-un.
- Kim Jong-un? - So I realized I was scammed.
(He called the seller many times, but he didn't answer.)
If you go to "The Cheat" website,
you can check if the seller is a scammer or not, using the person's phone number.
(I can't believe he knows that.)
- He knows a lot. - You're amazing.
- Wow. - Is he from the National Intelligence Service?
- Are you really an actor? - Yes.
This is my personal experience.
It's a little embarrassing actually.
A few years ago, I wanted to buy a new game console.
I ended up purchasing it through a second-hand goods website.
When I opened up the box,
the game console wasn't there.
So I got mad and logged into the website...
to report him.
When I read what he wrote again,
I realized he was only selling the box.
- He was selling the box. - Yes.
So if you want to buy things online,
you have to read everything carefully.
- It was a prank. - He knew people won't read it carefully.
I think you have to see the original product before you make a purchase.
- I've been scammed before when I tried to buy some shoes. - Really?
The shoes I wanted to buy were not released in Korea.
- People won't know if it's fake. - That's right.
So I bought the shoes and came home, feeling good about my purchase.
And another person was selling those shoes at a low price, too.
So I bought the shoes to wear them.
When I compared, the shoes looked different.
- It means one of the pairs is fake. - Which one was fake?
I don't know.
He doesn't know which one is fake.
Both pairs could be fake.
Then a credible seller was...
selling that pair along with another pair of shoes.
I had two pairs of the same shoes, but I didn't know which pair was an original.
So I decided to buy them again.
The three pairs all looked different.
- What did you do? - Well...
That's how you came to own 1,800 pairs of shoes?
(He kept looking for the original.)
He wanted to find an original pair.
The pair I bought from the credible seller was original. The other two were fake.
- You must see the original product before you buy it. - Yes, it's important.
You have to know what you're buying.
Have you sold your shoes directly to a buyer...
since you became an actor?
I haven't sold any shoes since then.
But a buyer has asked for an exchange.
Don't people ask, "Aren't you Park Hae-Jin?"
They don't really ask that question.
I was waiting for the buyer to come,
and I could instantly recognize the buyer in the crowd.
When collectors meet each other, they usually dress up.
- You know what I'm talking about? - Yes.
A guy was walking towards me, and I knew it was him.
I said hello.
They usually check the size and condition of the shoes.
He said "Thank you", and as he was leaving...
(Looking back)
(Am I mistaken?)
- Then I received a text message. - What did he say?
"Hae-Jin, I will wear them well."
He was being considerate, and didn't want you to feel awkward.
So I said, "Thank you. Please wear them well."
- All right. - People around the world buy second-hand goods...
because you can buy what you want at a lower price.
But it also creates controversial issues.
In the old town of Delhi, India,
there is a market called Chor Bazaar. It means "thieves market".
- Chor Bazaar? - Yes.
Do they sell fake goods there?
Not really.
They sell second-hand and stolen goods.
They mainly sell cell phones, bags, clothes and shoes.
(Chor Bazaar)
There is a problem.
Let's say I lost my cell phone...
and went there to buy a new one.
I might think the cell phone looks like the one that I lost.
But the store owner would say,
"It was yours yesterday, but it's mine today."
- Gosh. - You might have owned the phone,
- but you have to pay to buy it. - Right.
I thought Chor Bazaar was...
the Insa-dong of India.
(Laughing)
I didn't know about the place. My friend who went on the trip with me...
was really interested in archeology.
So he bought a stone statue from the Gupta Empire...
for 5,000 dollars and had it shipped to Korea.
I asked, "It's from the Gupta Empire. Don't you think it's too cheap?"
Then he said, "I studied and read books about it. This is original."
People shouldn't fall for that scam.
It's been a year. He still hasn't received it.
He filed a report to Interpol.
If he still hasn't received it, he's scammed.
Mark loves buying antiques, right?
You have to be really careful in India.
They'll say things like, "This is a 1,000-year-old stone statue from Gupta Empire."
But they actually make things the day before and bury them in the ground.
- You must be careful. - I couldn't believe the stone statue was so well-preserved.
Only its nose had some cracks.
It's still valuable even if it was made the day before.
There are thousands of statues like that.
- There are thousands? - "Chor" means thieves.
("Chor" means thieves.)
- That's right. - Does "Bazaar" mean a market?
- Yes. - It means market.
In the travel books, Chor Bazaar is described as a famous tourist attraction.
You can find everything in Chor Bazaar.
There are second-hand goods, such as...
- clothes and things. - Do they sell originals, too?
When you can't find automobile parts for expensive cars,
people think you can go to Chor Bazaar to buy them.
There's a Catholic organization called Caritas in Italy.
They collect second-hand clothes donated by people.
They give out the clothes for the poor.
There is an island called Sardinia in Italy.
A lot of rich people go there for summer vacation.
- I think they threw away a lot of nice clothes... - Right.
in the island.
So the staff who worked there didn't give the clothes to the poor.
Instead, they sold them.
But they got caught, and their case is pending in court.
Some celebrities in the States...
try to donate money by selling strange things.
I know it's for a good cause. They try to sell what they used...
for charity auctions.
There was a tissue used by Scarlett Johansson.
- Yes. - A used tissue.
Also, a jar of air...
exhaled by Brangelina couple...
- So it's a jar of air exhaled by them. - They exhaled together.
So it was when they were on good terms.
Also, there was a pregnancy test kit used by Britney Spears.
A pregnancy test kit?
That's right.
It was auctioned off for 10,000 dollars.
Someone bought that for 10,000 dollars?
They're not American, but you know One Direction, right?
- Yes. - A leftover toast they ate was auctioned off.
- My goodness. - It was auctioned off...
- for about 100,000 dollars. - Are you serious?
- A leftover toast? - Yes.
I can't believe it.
It will rot anyway.
- Didn't someone eat it before it was auctioned off? - They have a lot of fans.
How do you know if they ate the toast?
All right.
Please tell us about your philosophy of hobby.
My philosophy of hobby is that it should not threaten your livelihood.
- Yes. - That's right.
If you can find repose of mind in your hobby,
it will make your life more fun.
If your girlfriend has a hobby...
that's as intense as yours,
will you be okay with it?
What if she collects 1,800 pairs of socks?
(1,800 pairs of socks...)
(Socks?)
That would be perfect.
- They would have the same hobby. - Yes.
How about gloves?
- Gloves? - Sounds good.
If I were to marry her,
I would tell her to stop collecting things.
- What about you? - Will you stop, too?
The reason why I collected 1,800 pairs of shoes is...
because nobody has stopped me.
(I see.)
Maybe I was waiting for my girlfriend to appear...
and tell me, "Don't you think you have too many shoes?"
Because it's limitless.
- Right. - There were times I wondered why I was collecting all these shoes.
(He wondered why he bought all the shoes.)
- I see. - It was Park Hae-jin's issue for the 123rd Non Summit Meeting.
"I have collected up to 1,800 pairs of shoes. Am I abnormal?"
We will wrap up the show with a common phrase said by passionate collectors.
"You can stop having a hobby for a while, but you can never stop for good."
It means you can bring your hobby to a pause, but you can never stop.
- Do you agree? - Tell us.
That's what I said to my fans at a fan meeting.
"You can stop having a hobby for a while, but you can never stop for good."
- It means you want to be with them forever. - Yes.
(It has a positive meaning.)
Today, Hae-Jin showed us different sides of his personality.
How did you feel today?
I've been watching you on TV.
So you're like celebrities to me.
It was an honor that I could be here with you today.
I will continue watching your show.
- Great. - Thank you.
Good luck with your new drama, "Man to Man".
Thank you.
It's time to say goodbye.
Until the day we all become normal.
We'll dedicate this song to Park Hae-Jin, who has become...
a successful collector of shoes.
- It's... - I normally try to follow the script,
but I have my pride, too.
You sound like you buried your lines yesterday...
- and dug them up. - Yes.
(Curious)
I normally try to follow the script,
but I have my pride, too.
You sound like you buried your lines yesterday...
- and dug them up. - Yes.
(Chor Bazaar?)
Come over here and try my shoes!
(Dancing)
Shoes, my love
I would now like to adjourn Non Summit Meeting.
(Candlelight vigils took place across the nation.)
(Red square protest)
(People wore Guy Fawkes masks to protest.)
(Water cannons and pepper spray)
(It will cause a turmoil.)
(If you look at them,)
(you'll think they're in a festival.)
(It looks glamorous.)
(Xinlin learned new words.)
(Going out of office)
(Resign)
(They will tell us about each country's protest culture.)
(To Korean students,)
(I want to let them know how to study.)
(The King of Study, Kang Sung-tae)
(He got 396 points out of 400 on the CSAT.)
(He is the King of Study.)
(They learn about different study methods with the King of Study.)
(Cramming versus continuous effort)
(No students got a perfect score by cramming for the exam.)
(Memorizing an image)
(Introspection)
(A secret method that students at Princeton use)
(Will he give us any tips for the CSAT?)
(You shouldn’t be watching this right now.)
(If you turned it on, just watch the whole show.)
(A break on Monday night)
(Non Summit Meeting)
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